The cabin sole

[S/V AMITY]

  Because the teak & holly veneer on Amity's cabin sole has largely failed, we will be removing the veneered plywood entirely.  The reason I'm posting this is to see if anyone reasonably near Essex CT. wants the plywood pieces for serving as a cutting pattern for installing a wood sole in their cabin.  Just thought I'd ask...

Cheers!

[Sailingmaple]

I'm nowhere near CT but would love to have a template like that.  Currently I have the factory finished non skid down below with vinyl and rugs on top.  A proper new sole is on my wish list. Do you know what you will be replacing your sole with?

[S/V AMITY]

 Sailongmaple,

    Am a bit of a nostalgic and will be painting the sole (after sanding off the non-skid) black and spatter dashing with various colour paints.  Our Concordia yawl which we had for 40 years had this finish which was standard from Concordia.  Spatter dash was a traditional finish used in many old New England summer cottages and is uniquely American.  Since Waldo Howland, president of Concordia, was a New Englander himself, he thought the finish was just about right for a New England Buzzards Bay boat.  The other thing is it seems every boat you see has a teak & holly sole... very nice but too much of a standard-issue.  Sort of the same thing if every boat had the same colour scheme on deck.

  See:    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/t-magazine/design/splatter-paint-floors.html

[S/V AMITY]

  Concerning the removed cabin sole plywood pieces, I'll put them aside in case someone wants them in the future. 

Cheers!

[Sailingmaple]

Cool to learn, thanks for posting the link!  If you can, post a picture of how it all turns out when you finish. I'm sure many of us contemplating cabin sole options will appreciate seeing what you did.

[S/V AMITY]

  Will do. 

  Just got back from the yard where we de-bunged and unscrewed the ply from all the bilge boards.  Most came right apart but two of them had contact adhesive in addition to the screws. After a bit of prying and slipping a hacksaw blade between the ply and the bilge boards they came apart intact. The bungs on these were original so why Pearson glued only these two likely shall remain another Pearson puzzle.

  The shrink wrap is on now so next task will be removing the hatch cover lenses to have new ones made up.

  Cheers!

[SVJourney]

If you haven't done so already you might want to read this excellent write up by PeteW on sole replacement:
https://pearson365.com/forum/index.php?topic=1166.msg6230#msg6230

Cheers,
Wayne

[Dale Tanski]

You may want to consider tempered safety glass when replacing your hatch lenses.  Glass doesn't craze.Tempered glass is 10 times stronger than regular glass and safety glass has a thin plastic membrane between two panes of glass that keeps it all together if if is ever broken. 

I replace mine with glass and they are beautiful.  We replaced a set on a J-105 this summer and the improvement was impressive.  I just measured a Beneteau 40.7 to replace all of the hatches in that boat.


Dale

[S/V AMITY]

  Dale, what did you find the relative cost difference between tempered glass and plastic?

[Dale Tanski]

Before Covid tempered glass was about three times the cost for the materials.  Bedding the replacement lens of course is the same one way or the other.  Often removing the old glazing is the bulk of the work. 

Since Covid and the massive requirements for all of the useless plexi barriers, the cost of acrylic has skyrocketed and the availability has become iffy at best.  Now I would guess it is going to be very similar in cost.

The glass does take longer as any holes and the rounding of the corners must be done with the glass in the raw state.  Once that is complete the piece is sent out to a tempering house.  Typical turnaround is 2 weeks. Once tempered it cannot be altered or adjusted. Glass is available in the several tints, typically green, blue, gray and bronze.

Dale

[S/V AMITY]

  Thanks for the heads-up.

  Will be replacing the gray lenses with clear.  We like a bright cabin and if someone wants to peek in I don't care.  Prefer glass but we'll see what the quotes have to say.

[S/V AMITY]

  I take back the offer on the plywood sole pattern.  Realized I can't get the plywood sole off the boat in one piece because of the shrink wrap.  Will have to saw it up into smaller bits to fit through the cover's pass door.  Anybody need firewood?

[S/V AMITY]

  Demolition just about complete.  What a mess...

  Was wet under the ply since with the ply screwed down hard over the fiberglass cabin sole there is no way for it to dry out once it gets wet. 

[S/V AMITY]

  Ply sole is now out. 

[S/V AMITY]

  One other thing... if your boat smells a bit "off" and can't find the source, a good candidate might be the 40 year old damp/wet teak & holly ply in contact with the molded glass sole.  When I pulled Amity's the smell was not good.  Constantly wet ply makes an ideal petri dish for mold & God knows what else to thrive.