repowering cutting galley cabinet

[charlotte94]

Has anyone out there repowered their 365 and DID NOT have to cut away either the galley sink cabinet or cut out the cockpit deck???   Next month Haka Le #289 goes on the hard for repower and a bottom job.  I already crawled under the sink and removed what can be removed without cutting and for the most part is pretty basic.  my issue is how to remove the face and side as shown in the photos.  the painters tape shows an approximation of where I need to cut. 

So if anyone out there has figured this out, please tell me.  Thanks for your time

[SVJourney]

I did have to cut the cabinet, but in a different place that was MUCH less drastic than what you have in blue tape. I cut it at the left door upper hinge.  (see blue line in photo)  Once gone the engine came out very easily.  All I removed was the exhaust manifold prior to engine removal.  After reinstall I repaired the cabinet with a metal stitch plate.

[charlotte94]

Thanks so much your right that is a lot less drastic.  will deff go over this with the mech. 

[SVJourney]

Oops, missed a cut line on the pic...
I also cut down low (see revised pic)  In your case I would probably make the second cut at the foot pump cutout.   
The rest of the removal was just done by removing screws from inside the cabinet.

[Jim S]

I, and also a friend with a sister 365, both removed our 4-108s without cutting the galley cabinet.  We both removed a lot of the alcohol storage cabinet.  The engine has to be slid sideways to the starboard when coming into the cabin.  Use a block and tackle to hold the engine aft because when you lift the engine up, it will swing into the cabin with force!

[P69]

One of these might help with your remove the engine.  It's my 'mono-fork'.  Use it to reach into the engine compartment to lift the engine. The design puts the lifting force above the center of the engine so you can lift it out with full control.

Also see more pictures of how I used it. 

http://bodylens.com/Gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7&page=1

These are pics of engine installation. I didn't  have the mono-fork when I removed the engine and had an issue with gravity.  This made it a lot easier.

[charlotte94]

Thanks so very much for the help guys.  deff get with my mech and form a plan. 

[Sandy]

I wanted to reorganise that cabinet right the way across to aft of the nav station (no quarter berth)
and also providing more access on the stbd side, which is pretty tight on mine
the best I can remember seeing is this layout below

you are supposed to be looking at the falling opening cabinet, how its insulated and the gas ram that supports it

[jpendoley]

I'm confused-is that galley on a 365?  Very innovative approach to engine access-could actually see it being worth the redesign effort. I need to remove my Westerbeke 40 in a few weeks and am puzzling out how to do it without major surgery. If the surgery is too extensive, I could see a modificationa long those lines.

[Sandy]

No its not a Pearson let alone a 365
Ita a Niagara, not sure what length, 37ft?
but I think its a custom build anyway

what struck me were some of the details
you can see the engine box insulation, both sound and heat
theres a working foot pump notched into port side, and all the hosing for the sink faucets appears workable

not sure you could do both sides on a 365 engine,
as access is pretty terrible it needs to be wide as possible from the sink to up near the wet locker
the question is would it still be useful or workable if it was say 5ft long, or in 2 or 3 pieces?

[charlotte94]

Thanks for the reply.  I am trying to do this without doing a complete redesign though.  looking to make it as painless as possible.

[Jim S]

Guys, the engine will come out through the hole without cutting up the sink counter.  A lot of the cabinet can be dismantled. 

[jpendoley]

Thanks Jim. I did the rear main seal (thanks to pete and his "mono fork" design). While I did not fully remove it (did the seal in place-suspended from the fork) I think I could see it being turned to starboard and slid forward.  I also think the sink counter would be grand if it could be made easily removable. Accessing the engine port side from under the sink is getting harder as I get less limber.
Hope to remove the engine when I am on the hard this fall. Even after the rear seal was replaced it still leaks a lot of oil

[Jim S]

jpendoley:  I saw the previous owner check the oil from the full open engine door.  He could somehow feel around the engine and grasp the oil dipstick and withdraw it and replace it.  I saw him do it maybe 20 times, each time we started the engine each day.  I have been unable to do what he did with my new motor.

I have to crawl under the sink to the task, that is why I have so many scars on the top of my balding head..

[Sandy]

Guys, the engine will come out through the hole without cutting up the sink counter.  A lot of the cabinet can be dismantled.

just for access for maintenance Jim
cheers