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Oil and fuel filters on Universal 5444

Started by P69, May 02, 2016, 11:08:19 PM

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P69

I didn't like where the oil filter was (horizontal) and the fuel filter was tucked into a corner  up close to the block, making it hard to change/bleed.

I made a bracket to put them together and easily reached. Oil filter is one of those "remote filter" setups (no hoses in pictures).

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Verne

So, I just changed the oil and filter on Deja vu, 1982 Pearson 367, Universal 5444, and the owners manual says, 8.5 quarts.  I checked the dip stick, it was still showing, not full, so I added more, like twice, a quart more.  Meaning, 2 gallons *(8 quarts), then two more quarts.  I have now come to the conclusion, that this is not the correct DIP STICK in this engine.  I promptly sucked out the over fill two quarts, prior to running the engine I might add.

Does anyone have a series 1981 or 1982 Universal Model 5444 44HP, dip stick part number I can compare to what is in the engine now.  And or, how I can get a correct dip stick?

thanks in advance - hope to get a reply.

Verne


P69

Verne,

I have same motor.
SN on dipstick is 19222-36411

It's 6 5/8" long  and when seated completly, the tip is about 2" off the bottom of the oil pan.

Your engine was used in Kubota R400 Loader.
When you contact Kubota for parts, they will ask you what tractor the engine is in and will nto look up anything without a tractor model (engine model, V1902 will not work).

Here is a website to Kubota tractors with parts schematics.
http://kubota.com/part/partsList.aspx#
Enter R400  in the MODEL NAME field and hit search.

The part number on that schematic is not the same as the part number on my dipstick. Could be that 1) mine is from different engine or 2)part number has changed over last 30 years.

I don't remember clearly, but last time I change oil, I think dipstick was accurate at about 8.5 qts.

This link has the spreadsheet of kubota parts with part numbers that I have successfully installed during my rebuild. Most parts are from kubota, but some (thermostat, starter) are from 3rd party.

Good luck


http://pearson365.net/out/PartsCrossReference.xls

Verne

Scared to ask next question.  Any idea as to the average life expectancy of these Model 5444 Universals?  I have a hour meter, don't think it is accurate. I see a log book that notates 500 ~+/- hours, then entries going forward to 1,020.5 (as an example).. So I am guessing, new owner 10 years ago, put in the hour meter and he put 1,000 hours on the engine.  He bought it around 1999 or so.  I am guessing, no way there is only 1,000 hours on this engine,,, do you think???

SVJourney

As long as the engine has not been abused, worry at about 8000 hours.
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P69

Hey Verne,

I rebuild mine because I wanted to.  The only sign of anything wrong was that when it sat for a month or so  without running, it would start, but stop after a few minutes, then not start for lots of cranking.  I figure air was getting in some where.  Could have been bad hose conection or the one bad cylinder in the injection pump.

Other than that, it ran great.  I had the time, cabin interior was trashed anyway, so I pulled the engine.  It has about 1900 hrs on the hour meter and mechanic said there was nothing wrong with the engine when he tore it apart.

Problems I discovered:
1. one cylinder in injection pump was badly worn. pump rebuilt
2. one bearing from engine was seized (don't know where it came from,  but it was about 1 1/4" dia). The bearing came back with the motor from machine shop.
3. some pitting in the water passages of the aluminum gear case (replace gear case after failed weld job)
4. some pitting in the aluminum water pump housing (replaced water pump ($115 from kubota dealer)
5. some pitting in the aluminum water lfange, welded it up and reused it. Water flange is the thing the thermostat sits in. It has a hose that connects it with the exhaust manifold.

No other issues, everything else was great.



Verne

So I pulled and verified (via my mechanic who is working on the engine heat exchanger for me)  the part# on my dipstick is indeed 19222-36411.  I forgot to ask him to measure it, but it seems to be to be about right at 6.5 inches or so. I sucked out the old oil with the drill motor pump version via the dipstick hole. long process, but it yielded about 8 quarts.  I replaced it now with 8.4, not quite 8.5 quarts for some other reasons not applicable, the oil dip stick just shows at the BOTTOM  of the oil level indicator on the stick.. If it was FULL, I would think it would be at more towards the top of the stick FILL / NO FILL type area.  I am positive, 1/4 of a quart is not the determining factor here.  I was temped to purchase another dip stick that cross references my parts manual from Discount Marine Source, PART# 299968 description for M40/M5432 and M50/M5444 for only $23.95... just to know, what I know.  Would not hurt to have a spare, I guess anyway...
However, I thought one of these models listed above, actually held 11.5 quarts, not 8.5.  My manual calls for W15-40 / 8.5 quarts.  Confusing,,, and this is one I really would like to get right.