Propeller size and shaft deminsion

[Bev & Billy on Sta-sea-dawn]

Do you have a picture of the mounting of your shift cable at the tranny....
Please send to my email....Homeagain2008@live.com...Why is my shifter different ...if I have a RH prop....

[POG]

You can buy a new Sailer 3 prop from Deep Blue Yachtsupply (see internet) for $511.  Takes them 4-5 weeks to deliver.  How your present set up has worked at all is beyond me....

And Dale, I am off to Tonga in ten days.  Ray Deming, that angel of a man, sent me a discarded Paragon gear and right now I am busy fitting a new bearing and oil seal to the end assembly.  I will bring that assembly piece with me and put it in place of my leaky one before departing for New Zealand.  You will hear more from me soon  Keep your fingers crossed for a good passage.

[Bev & Billy on Sta-sea-dawn]

Me neither...but it moved the boat somehow...does anyone have a picture of how there shift cable is attached to the paragon tranny.....maybe that is where I need to start my investigation.

[SailingSeaDragon]

Sea Dragon has a Paragon PM10L transmission... You can see the shift linkage in the first photo on this page.

http://www.sailingseadragon.com/DamperPlate.htm

I do not know if this helps or not.

Garner

[Bev & Billy on Sta-sea-dawn]

Mine shifts on teh side

[Dale Tanski]

Well... mine looks like this. As you can see the shift fork clevis is on the starboard side (left in this photo).  Pretty straight forward.



Dale

[Bev & Billy on Sta-sea-dawn]

That is what mine looks like also...when it pulls to stern..toward engine...that is foward gear....?

[POG]

YES - as far as I can recall.  Boat is in Tonga.  OOOOPS! - Looking at the drawing of the gear box I am inclined to think NO.

Better wait for confirmation from someone who has his boat nearby.

How is that for unhelpful "advice"?

[Dale Tanski]

I am heading to the boat tomorrow morning to measure a forward brace for the trailer project.  IF I remember I will check. Guessing, I would be inclined to say because Tonga is in the southern hemisphere, Carl's toilet flushes backward as well.

Dale

[RayNWanda]

 Ummm, I have a question about the Paragon. I have never been inside one. Are the forward and reverse clutches the same size? The reason I ask is that if Carl has a RH prop, he is having to run in reverse to go forward. Some of the old Twin Disc marine gears have a smaller (wimpy) clutch for reverse, the wisdom was that it would not spend much time backing. Musta looked good on paper...

Carl, I'm not trying to buy more trouble for you, just trying to prevent a repeat failure.

[Bev & Billy on Sta-sea-dawn]

I have no idea why my stuff has to be different....but I have a RH prop.  Standing in my cockpit....looking at the end of the motor with the pulleys....my transmission turns to the left (port) and my v-drive shaft and the propeller shaft turn to the right (starboard).  It appears that my transmission has an indent to hold in forward and only pressure to keep in reverse.  When I apply pressure to the transmission lever...to the bow it locks into the indent and holds...when I apply pressure to the stern direction, it has to be held to keep in reverse.  Since my shaft turns to starboard and it makes the boat go forward when I push the gear to the indent direction....I do not know?  Is there anyway the previous owners could have switched the transmission or v-drive direction?

I think my shaft under the boat is off set to the left...I will look today and make sure.....

[Bev & Billy on Sta-sea-dawn]

I just dove the boat...my shaft comes out on the right side of the center line....looking from the stern forward

[POG]

Ray, Thank you for your concern.

Ummm, I have a question about the Paragon. I have never been inside one. Are the forward and reverse clutches the same size? The reason I ask is that if Carl has a RH prop, he is having to run in reverse to go forward. Some of the old Twin Disc marine gears have a smaller (wimpy) clutch for reverse, the wisdom was that it would not spend much time backing. Musta looked good on paper...

Carl, I'm not trying to buy more trouble for you, just trying to prevent a repeat failure.

This discussion is NOT about my Paragon, but about the troubles of Sta - Sea - Dawn, who started the posting.

I am not the one with a RH prop and I am doing well, I believe, with my problem thanks to parts scavenged from the Paragon you sent me.  The Paragon only employs the clutch plates in forward.  In reverse, flipping the gear lever clamps a band around the Planetary gear and the rotation becomes right handed at the prop as long as you keep pressure on the gear lever and the band tight on the planetary gear cylinder.

Because of this mode of operation of the Paragon I think Sta-Sea-Dawn has to get a proper left handed 17x12 prop which matches the function of the gear box.

And StaSeaDawn... Don't worry too much about the Edson pedestal and cable linkage and levers.  They can be easily switched to work as designed.  Just get into it and you will see.   

[RayNWanda]

Sorry about that- I got confused over who has what.

[POG]

No worries, Ray.  As long as you can distinguish between your wife and your secretary you'll be fine.