Main Boom goose-neck

[s/v Norne Gaest]

Hi All,
I was taking the Mizzen Boom apart for long overdue maint and broke the pin that connects the goose neck casting (in the end of the boom) to the mizzen mast. Does anyone know the manufacturer of the mizzen boom assembly??... or where I might get a new goose-neck pin?
Thanks,
Steve
s/v Norne Gaest
1976 Pearson 365 Hull#13.
Currently in Havre de Grace, Md.
marineruscg_99@yahoo.com

[Dale Tanski]

Norne,

Is your mizzen gooseneck on a slide?

Dale

[s/v Norne Gaest]

It's a goose-neck. But the good news is I used a Norseman Fitting from the end of a Selden furler (the guys use a different fitting on a new Hunter when they're prepping it) and bolted it to the end-casting. I can show a photo if anyone cares to see it.

[Dale Tanski]

The post did say Main boom gooseneck, but you directly asked about the mizzen boom and the mizzen mast.  That is why I questioned if you had a slide.  So, are we talking the mizzen or main, and if it is the mizzen and it does not have the adjustable slide that is very interesting.  I was under the belief that all 365 ketches had an adjustable mizzen slide.

Dale

[S/V Laelia]

Any idea why there is a slide on the mizzen gooseneck?

[Dale Tanski]

My best guesses are as follows...

1) If you raise the mizzen too high the headboard gets hung up on the mizzen back stays where they come together at the top.  This makes it difficult to lower the sail occasionally.  Lowering the gooseneck prevents that from happening limiting how high one can hoist.

2) It allows for a bit more head room in the cockpit if required.

3) It allows for a little bit more bimini room if required.

4) When it is time to sail tie your mizzen and install the horsey blanket, you can lower the mizzen boom that 6" or so and it makes it that little easier to reach.

Ok, best I can do.  Really not required if your mizzen is cut at the right length.  Besides, I stand on the companionway hatch to close up the mizzen sail cover.

Anybody else?

Dale

[S/V Laelia]

Dale,

Thank you. As usual, you have come up with creative as well as entertaining ideas. 

Out of all of those, I would say that #1 is the only one that comes close to justifying the additional expense and complexity. I will have to take a look at my mizzen tomorrow and see if that is a problem on my boat.

BTW - I finally got around to looking at all the posts on your Maruska restoration project. Very impressive! If you did all that and held down a job and supported a family all at once you must not sleep much!

Ralph

[POG]

Ralph,

The secret behind "Dale's" enormous productivity is that there are really ten people hiding behind this signature.  They are employed - often over-time - by an anonymous billionaire with a nostalgic wish to be just a regular water rat.

Carl

[Dale Tanski]

I have hesitated responding to this last post.  My therapist says that I should ignore mean spirited comments like that.
I have been learning to embrace diversity but admittedly "an anonymous billionaire with a nostalgic wish to be just a regular water rat" cuts deep.

During my required daily meditation periods I chant the following -

By learning to recognize our similarities and appreciate our differences,
together we can overcome prejudice and intolerance and work towards a more
peaceful and productive world.

When I look back at this incident it has taught me that a tolerant society is more likely to engender mutual trust
and cooperation.

Carl my friend, oh Carl... Embrace Diversity - Believe in Difference - Value Difference

To quote Jimmy Carter,  We (the P365 family) have become not a melting pot
but a beautiful mosaic. Different people, different beliefs, different
yearnings, different hopes, different dreams.

I fear that this type of behaviour is what drove Ray Deming from the fold.  Perhaps he was a multihuller all along and we just never reached out and accepted that.

I search my soul for the reason for this attack.  I know that I have not been contributing to this forum as in the past but I have been heavily involved with the occupy Buffalo movement. I can only hope that I do not become once again strung out on stool softeners because if I do, it will be your fault Carl!

As for you Ray, keep those kind cards and accolades coming.  You I like.


Dale Tanski

aka

Warren E. Buffett
Chairman of the board

[POG]

I feel slightly guilty about derailing this subject - though it has been a bit derailed right from the start.  Under the heading "Main boom goose-neck" we are actually dealing with the goose-neck on the mizzen mast.

I think Tanski / Maruska (or the ten men hiding behind that signature) has actually dealt with all aspects of the usefulness of a sliding goose-neck.  To me the primary use is the same as a cunningham.  By lowering the boom you stretch the luff.

I am personally suspicious of goose-necks on a track unless the track is wide, with tabs or wings to spread the loads and twists from the sail and boom over a wider area of the mast than an ordinary narrow track will.  TOOTSIE, my Yankee 30, had a simple track for the main goose neck.  Even though I through-bolted the track in multiple places it wrenched itself out of the mast as the sail kept slatting during the many periods of very light winds on my way to the Marquesas islands.

[Bay Sailor]

Hey guys,

As it happens, my main gooseneck is cracked. I know I can have it welded but would prefer a newly minted unit. Any knowledge about where I can locate one?

Mark

[barrylab]

I've never replaced a goose neck, but I've had good luck with Rigright for standing rigging:

http://www.rigrite.com/spars/Pearson_Spars/pearson_D_Boom.html

[Bay Sailor]

I've never replaced a goose neck, but I've had good luck with Rigright for standing rigging:

http://www.rigrite.com/spars/Pearson_Spars/pearson_D_Boom.html

Thanks for pointing me at them. I'll contact them to see what I need to do to inform them of the size and shape of mine.

Mark