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Permanently Remove Mizzen???

Started by ambrose13, May 27, 2008, 01:16:59 PM

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ambrose13

Does anyone have any insights into permanently removing the mizzen on a 365?  Can it work?  What is the impact/consequence?  Any upside?

Jack
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SailingSeaDragon

Jack,

Pearson did offer the 365 rigged as a Sloop. The Sloop and Ketch are the same boat with only minor modifications to the rig.

http://www.sailingseadragon.com/Sloop.htm

I know one person that has sailed the "Atlantic Circle" single handed in his Sloop rigged 365. See "Sabrina's Solo Atlantic Circle Voyage" on Sea Dragon's website...

http://www.sailingseadragon.com/Adventures.htm

I would think working with a knowledgeable rigger and sailmaker is the place to begin..

Good Luck
Garner
Sea Dragon
1981 36 Cutter (367)
http://www.sailingseadragon.com

docpatton1

Hi,
Don't know about removing the mizzen but I own a 1980 sloop 365. The biggest concern is the transom. 6 months after I pulled the mast to replace the step the transom started to cave in. The transom is very thin, 3/8" was the maximum thickness I found. Had to have a strong back glassed in to prevent further distortion.
Chris

EdHouston

OK Chris

I think we should have a bit more information on this issue!

What if any relationship did your mast step and transom problem share?

Do you have pictures?

docpatton1

Ed,
I'm pretty sure I have the pics of the mast step, but I didn't take any photos of the strong back or the area where the transom started to cave in.(don't ask me why)

I'll be home next week and if you want I can crawl in and take the photos of the repair and the area that was caving in.
As to the relationship with the mast step, there wasn't. Prior to repairing the mast step the boat had an old "Cruising Design" roller furler and the rig suffered from what can only be described as "mast pumping" in higher wind speeds.(>18 kn) Additionally the rig was, to my shame, somewhat "loose". Wasn't comfortable with tightening it too much with the corrosion at the step.

After the mast step replacement I installed a Harken roller furler and traveler. After re-tuning the rig with a slight aft rake to the mast the boat sailed great. I left for Iraq and 8 months later when I got home, I was shown where the transom was "bending" in at the hull/deck joint.

Near as I can tell from looking at the ketch rigged variants, Pearson simply didn't install the chain dual chainplates in the pt/stbd lockers and just put one center mass on the transom w/o any reinforcement. The backing plate was justy large fender washers.

Hope this helps.
Let me know about the photos.
Chris