How often do 365 Sloops come up for sale?

[Braun]

Hey, folks!  Just joined as I've been hunting for a 365 Sloop (or a 367) recently and came across the community.  Good to meet you all!

Current question is pretty much in the subject - I know that the ketch is the most common, but how often do the sloops hit the market?  And then, of course, does anyone here know of one quietly sitting on the hard somewhere that needs some love and a new life?  I'm looking for a bit of a project boat that I get to NC (where my folks are, I'm in LA) and then get there and begin the refitting process.  Doesn't even need a working engine as one of the first projects will be to rip it out and go electric motor.

Missed out on a nice looking 367 that was just sold in Charleston, SC by only a few days - but part of the fun is the hunt!

Eventually I'll drop a post in the Chandlery but figured I'd do a quick intro and ask here first.

I've been working remote (marketing gig) for years before the covid lockdown.  The gig usually takes a lot of travel and having been stuck in LA pretty much drove home the need to check another life goal box off - buy the boat, fix the boat, sail the boat...and sure, work from the boat as well while cruising.  Grew up sailing and racing (Capri/Catalina 22 and Laser II) with my old man so before he becomes the old old man he and I thought it would be fun to embark on a bit of a retro-refit project together.  They retired down to NC near the water so it's pretty well the perfect spot to do it.

Anyway - any leads are greatly appreciated, but in the meantime hope that you're all safe, healthy, well, and enjoying good winds.

[S/V AMITY]

Welcome!  Keep your eyes peeled on yachtworld.com.  One or two should pop up as we head towards fall.

[Braun]

Thanks!

Great call on keeping an eye out as we head into the fall - I hadn't even considered that.  Five years in LA and apparently I forgot about these things called "seasons." 

I've been stalking all the regular spots pretty, well, regularly.  There's a 424 out of Beaufort that they converted from ketch to sloop by extending the boom, but unless they moved the mast that is just asking for an unbalanced boat that handles like junk.  A 365 ketch parked at a marina not 15 min from my folks that I think he's going to go poke around at, and another one not too far from him as well. 

Hell, there's even a 35 CB close by but, there's something about that little bit of extra space that allows for a separate shower in the head...

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it - aside from what looks like a slightly mirrored cabin,larger head, and the storage at head level in the galley - is there any tremendous difference between the 365/367 and the 36?

[SVJourney]

Huge difference.  A 365 is a cruising boat.  A 36 is a sport boat.  Dif keel, 3500lbs lighter, 60 vs 150 gals water tanks etc.
Compare here:
https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/pearson-36
versus
https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/pearson-365

365 sloop versus ketch.  The sloop has the same mast placement as the ketch.  The main mast is 2 feet higher and the boom 2 feet longer.

[Jordan]

Huge difference.  A 365 is a cruising boat.  A 36 is a sport boat.  Dif keel, 3500lbs lighter, 60 vs 150 gals water tanks etc.
Compare here:
https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/pearson-36
versus
https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/pearson-365

365 sloop versus ketch.  The sloop has the same mast placement as the ketch.  The main mast is 2 feet higher and the boom 2 feet longer.

You know, I've never pulled up those two boats side by side. Damn I feel good about the 365 ketch!! It's kind of crazy that the mast is in the same spot as a ketch. I thought it would have needed to move aft for proper balance, but that level of my knowledge is extremely hypothetical at this point. I do know I felt strongly enough (and researched enough about naval architecture) about it that when we were shopping, we did find a center cockpit beneteau ketch, but the PO removed the mizzen mast. There were other things wrong with it, but that was the big one.

[SVJourney]

There are a lot of converted ketches out there. Be careful if you are looking at one as the backstay is sometimes connected to the transom without reinforcing the fiberglass which can create problems.  Other than that, a 2 foot boom extension and a new mainsail is all it takes.   I would also move the jib tack out onto the anchor platform to increase fore area. I would worry about main sheeting on the boom being too far forward.  A good traveler system would take care of that.
As far as balance, I sailed my boat with mizzen down more often than not and it works just fine.  With a bigger main I would think you would depower the main sooner as weather builds to reduce weather helm.
Really, I think it a matter of taste. I would be reticent to further under power a boat that already is lacking in sail to displacement ratio.  My wife, on the other hand, would LOVE to have the mizzen gone from the cockpit.