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Title: Diesel additives?
Post by: ishmael on April 25, 2011, 08:43:03 AM
This will probably be as controversial a topic as choice of ground tackle.  However,  what diesel additives are you all using in your old Westerbeke's?  I use a product for adding lubricity, Sentry, and a biocide, Biobor JF.  Do any of you use Startron tank cleaner?   

Ron
S/V Matchmaker
St. Marks, Fl
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: Randy on April 25, 2011, 09:38:56 AM
I use Startron only and have met with good success.
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: RayNWanda on April 26, 2011, 01:50:30 PM
All we use is Biobor JF. I do run the fuel through a Baha filter funnel before it goes in the tank.

Caterpillar used to have embossed into all their fuel caps "Buy clean fuel and keep it clean". It's good advice. Some of the fuel additives are good products, some are snake oil. I do have to wonder what happens when you start using several. Most of them have a variety of solvents to keep them liquid. Are the main ingredients compatible? I saw 2 boats several years ago that both tried a certain cetane booster. One of them had 10 of 12 injectors leaking, the other had 9 of 12. Was it mixed correctly?- Who knows. I am pretty leery of pouring stuff in our fuel.

BUT- at this point, I am able to buy automotive diesel and bring it aboard in jugs- I can see what we are getting. If we were cruising, we would probably have to get what the fuel dock has.
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: ishmael on April 26, 2011, 06:38:50 PM
Good advice.  Clean fuel is the key and keeping it clean, water, and bug free the challenge.  I also use a baja filter and swear by it.  I'm sure it has saved me headaches.  We are full-time live aboard and leisurely cruisers.  Meaning we tend to stay in one place for months at a time.  Our fuel consumption is low and I tend to worry about water and about lubricity (given the low sulfur diesel we are seeing more of lately). 

Anyone else?

Ron
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: RockysMate on August 23, 2011, 07:33:35 AM
I googled Baja filter funnel and can't seem to find anyone who sells it.
Linda
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: RayNWanda on August 23, 2011, 08:03:39 AM
Here it 'tis

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=11151&partNumber=1933233&langId=-1

Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: Randy on August 23, 2011, 09:30:02 AM
Don't buy that one. It's a piece of cr@p. You have to deal with a lot of fuel left in the bottom of the filter. Its messy and certainly not worth the West Marine price tag!
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: Jim S on August 23, 2011, 07:58:45 PM
I agree that the listed filter is less than optimum.  The following sites have the Baja filter pictured.  Hope you can find one.

http://www.mit.edu/people/robot/diesel/index.html
and
http://www.myboatsgear.com/newsletter/200767.asp
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: RayNWanda on August 24, 2011, 07:57:08 PM
I'll buy one too just to be rid of the filter holding fuel. I didn't know there were better ones!
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: RayNWanda on August 26, 2011, 07:06:20 PM
So- who sells them? I found the nice aluminum one for 239 bucks... This is how we ended up with the one from Worst Marine.
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: Jim S on August 27, 2011, 08:00:15 AM
Just to let you know, the Baja retains residual fuel as well.  I have a PVC pipe with end cap to catch the left over fuel that drips out during storage. 
Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: ishmael on August 27, 2011, 08:25:16 AM
Just FYI -  Practical Sailor rated the West Marine version higher than the Baja.  I know.  It retains a bit of fuel.  I keep it in a large plastic zip lock bag, heavy duty kind and dispose of the retained fuel at a local marina along with spent oil.

Title: Re: Diesel additives?
Post by: RayNWanda on August 27, 2011, 12:47:03 PM
 We bought a Teak Slave Rescue Kit from Semco a couple of years ago. It comes in a little one gallon? bucket. By sawing off about 1/2" from the West Marine funnel, it will just fit in the bucket. The bucket is also just the right height to support the fuel jug as you pour it into the tank. So- when I finish with the funnel, it goes into the bucket and the lid snaps on the bucket. It works, but the fuel remaining in the funnel is a nuisance. It is easy to make a mess.