Pearson 365 and 367

Pearson 365 and 367 => Pearson General Non-Mechanical System Maintenance and Repair => Topic started by: EdHouston on October 13, 2010, 10:49:52 PM

Title: I think I was blessed with an additional 6 inches!!
Post by: EdHouston on October 13, 2010, 10:49:52 PM
I know it sounds too good to be true!

But I have an additional 6"

Ok let me clarify here the 6" is on my keel! Not well you know!

4'6" is the stated draft of my Boat something caused me to put the tape on her today before we splashed her after her new bottom job and I swear the draft is five feet or at minimum 4'11" not four six!!

So the question is how did Pearson get to the 4'6"?

I maybe and I am sure many will say I am as thick as thirty seven short planks but this does not quite match up!

Please help before I have to tell the wife about the additional six inches!!!!!!

Ed
Title: Re: I think I was blessed with an additional 6 inches!!
Post by: Jim S on October 14, 2010, 08:52:51 AM
Phantom is 4'6".  Some years ago while at anchor the tide went out and Phantom just bumped bottom.  I immersed a wooden boat hook into the water amidship and marked the waterline.  This boat hook is now my depth measurement for times we go aground and I need to find the deeper water.
Title: Re: I think I was blessed with an additional 6 inches!!
Post by: Dale Tanski on October 14, 2010, 07:45:07 PM
I was under the impression that Sloops and the Cutter rigs had a deeper keel.  I am pretty sure I read this somewhere.

Good Sailing...  Dale
Title: Re: I think I was blessed with an additional 6 inches!!
Post by: mshnhed on October 14, 2010, 10:48:42 PM
I just looked at 2 this weekend. One was a sloop and is listed as 6' draft and one was a cutter rig and is listed as 5'6" draft. The sales guy claims they have 3 different keels. I was surprised at that...but he IS a salesman so I doubt he actually knows. He also called them both 365's...I hate splitting hairs...but I believe the cutter rig is considered a 367. My 2 or 3 cents worth.

Mshnhed
Title: Re: I think I was blessed with an additional 6 inches!!
Post by: SailingSeaDragon on October 15, 2010, 07:54:25 AM
There were only two keels available from the factory. The 4' 6" modified full keel that was the ketch, pilothouse, & sloop and the 5' 6" fin keel on the cutter...

http://www.sailingseadragon.com/Specs.htm

With that said there are one or two modified 365's out there that have had extensive modifications to the keel & rig... See the picture below... Bill Shaw was asked about this at least once when he was answering questions in the "Pearson Current". He confirmed that the factory never built a tall rig deep keel 365...

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1980/Pearson-Custom-365-Tall-Rig-1729681/Waukegan/IL/United-States

I have no training as hull designer, but I have never seen a keel-rudder configuration like in the picture of the boat listed above.

Garner
Title: Re: I think I was blessed with an additional 6 inches!!
Post by: Jim Cozy on October 15, 2010, 10:15:00 AM
Ed- Talaria is a sloop, 1979 #284. Exactly the same hull as the ketch. However, be aware that the designed draft may differ somewhat (or lots) from the actual. Displacement and therefore draft is calculated on the drawing board estimating weight of materials and assuming normal crew complement and half full tanks and stores. Lots of room for variability from boat to boat even out of the factory, but more so for each owner's style. Obviously, the heavier she is, the more she draws. But finally, how to measure draft? The molded-in waterline is again off the drawing board. A truer draft would be vertically from the actual waterline (where the scum ends) to the deepest part of the keel. And don't forget, some past owner may have raised the waterline to accomodate extra weight. I have done that! Jim
Title: Re: I think I was blessed with an additional 6 inches!!
Post by: mshnhed on October 26, 2010, 09:32:03 PM
That tall rig is one of the boats I looked at. It's not bad...but it is listed as 6ft draft...I didn't measure anything but I was looking at 365's because of the 4'6" draft...give or take...not sure I like the deeper draft. But then again, the first time I point her high I may just forget about that foot and a half. Not sure yet what we are gonna do.

Bare