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Title: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Bernie on April 07, 2010, 04:44:29 PM
Good afternooon fellow Pearson owners, My name is Bernie Haigh, home port, Toronto, Ontario, Canada and I am the proud owner of hull #47, "Perception" formally of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Like most of you, I am sure, I cant wait to throw off the dock lines and head to the sun. These winters are killing me. steadily working on the boat to bring her up to "Bristol Condition" I love it.
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Dale Tanski on April 07, 2010, 07:47:28 PM
Bernie,
Glad to have you aboard.  I know of a 365 ketch out of Rochester but none other on Lake Ontario.  There are two here in Buffalo and several on the west end of Lake Erie.  If you ever need anything please ask.
We would love to take our boat to the Thousand Islands however the $400 round trip through the Welland Canal just leaves me scratching my head and asking myself why bother.  Not that long ago it was $25 each way, and considering they jamb you in behind a freighter for free, what are they thinking?
Did you float her home or truck her?
Good Sailing...
Dale Tanski
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Bernie on April 08, 2010, 06:18:40 PM
Hey Dale, thanks for the welcome, great to hear from you. I followed your restoration. Nice job. I sailed the boat from Milwaukee to Muskegon Michigan in early May two years ago, on my own. It was quite cold. then I had her trucked from Muskegon to Toronto. Where do you call home port Dale? Is the restoration completed?
Bernie
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Dale Tanski on April 08, 2010, 09:32:53 PM
We are out of Buffalo.  When you pass the Coast Guard station hang a right.  We are in First River Marina or better known as Harold's World. Look for the greenish blue hull.

Once the boat was in the water the restoration process slowed.  Remember, after a year and a half of New York to Maryland every other weekend, I had a rather large honey do list to catch up on. 
I have a substantial boat list for this spring and that should pretty much complete the interior with the exception of the V-berth.  This list also includes awlgripping the cabin and the side decks.  I plan to add a teak eyebrow to the cabin top as the final touch.

Two springs ago I painted the cockpit, bulwarks and the main hatches.    Unfortunately, I redid all of the exterior teak at the same time in an unusual 90 degree stretch in May, and it apparently flashed off too fast and it began to lift by the end of the summer.  This being said, I am back down to bare wood on most of the boat again and getting ready to resand.

Dale
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Bernie on April 12, 2010, 05:45:09 PM
i know what you mean about the teak. I gave up on most finishes this year, striped all of the exterior teak, toe rail, grab rails and so forth and went back to teak oil. I found this stuff called "Kneff" works really well. I also made a new Teak main salon table this winter, looks alot better than the "Arborite" one from the factory. I also removed and re bedded all of the stanchion bases and replaced all of the backing plates with 1/4" aluminum, should be nice and strong now. I have found that I have water in my V-Drive, it's all milky. Cant seem to download your pictures from your V-drive experience. Difficult overhaul? Take care, Bernie
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: RayNWanda on April 12, 2010, 10:14:54 PM
 Bernie, pull the top off the v-drive and take a look inside. Our first boat had water in the v-drive when we bought it. The boat had sat without a working bilge pump and a dripping packing. Evidently we caught it before it did any damage. Maybe you'll get lucky like we did. Also, the top cover contains a tube that is the oil cooler.
I found out the hard way that not all the oil drains out through the drain plug. It is best to vacuum the oil out the top. I flushed and flushed (11 times) that v-drive trying to get rid of the water. I finally pulled the top off it and found that there was 1/4" of water left in it every time I changed the oil. I vacuumed it out with a vacuum type oil changer and got it cleaned up in 2 flushes.
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Bernie on April 15, 2010, 05:35:40 PM
Thanks Ray, I am guessing that you flushed it out with oil, what type of gear oil do you use in the V drive.
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: RayNWanda on April 15, 2010, 06:06:11 PM
It uses 30 wt engine oil. I actually flushed it with ATF for flushes #8,9,10.
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Bernie on April 16, 2010, 09:23:49 PM
awsome Ray, Thanks.
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Jean-Marc & Melissa Zanni on April 16, 2010, 11:09:51 PM
Bernie,
  We also had water ingress inside our Vdrive.  As explained by Ray, flushing is a bear.  Sucking it is the most efficient.  But in case you did not detect it early enough you may have some rust developping in the bearing and they may die quickly on you.  This was what was happening to us.  Luckily Warner is still in business and for what was then (2005/2006) a reasonable fee, they did a complete refit of the unit.  The Unit Came back all shyny re-painted and was a lot quieter.  Well worth the $300.

Jean-Marc & Melissa Zanni

s/v Impossible Dream
hull#336
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Bernie on April 17, 2010, 04:34:07 PM
Thanks Guy's. Like the name of your boat!
Bernie
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: mzed on April 17, 2010, 06:23:10 PM
I'm in the midst of tackling this same problem: water in the V-Drive.  Same cause, perhaps... the boat sat for a long time with water in the bilge before I bought it.

The oil cooler seemed to be fine, but I replaced the o-ring and resealed it with RTV to be cautious.  It is much easier to get all the watery oil out with the heat exchanger off.  So far, things look good.  But, I haven't been able to run the engine very long for other reasons.

Michael

Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: slokat on April 18, 2010, 12:17:45 AM
water floats on oil, watery oil floats on oil...

I had same problem left over from previous owner, just pumped in new oil from the drain hole with a hand pump, until only good oil came out of the dipstick tube. Then drained and refilled with 30wt.

If small residual water was left, it has since boiled away.
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: Bernie on April 19, 2010, 08:03:47 PM
Hey thats a great idea. How did you capture the bad oil as it came out of the dip stick hole?
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: slokat on April 20, 2010, 11:42:56 AM
Plastic milk bottle with the top cut off & rags.
Title: Re: Pearson 365 Ketch #47
Post by: slokat on April 20, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Actually was waiting for someone to challenge me on this, because my mechanic son taught me this procedure, though I stated it wrong above, and even though it is opposite of what they teach you in science class.  Should have said oil pumped from the bottom displaces everything before the different liquids have a chance to mix or seek there proper levels...

Since oil would normally float on water.