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Pearson 365 and 367 => Pearson 365/367 Mechanic Shop => Topic started by: Shacklepin on December 08, 2016, 02:08:37 PM

Title: Water pump pully.
Post by: Shacklepin on December 08, 2016, 02:08:37 PM
Having taken two weeks to motor sail the ICW from Kemah Texas to New Orleans, down the Mississippi across the bay to Key West and on to Havana I needed to purchase a new alternator. With the belt at the correct tension the water pump pully decided enough was enough and disintegrated.
I have a 1982 367 cutter named Ebb Tide and she has a Universal (Westerbeke) 5444 (44hp) Diesel. When trying to replace said pully the dealer needs to know if it's a type 'A' or 'B'. I cannot find any identification plate anywhere - has anyone any ideas ??? please.
Title: Re: Water pump pully.
Post by: P69 on December 08, 2016, 09:03:29 PM
Shacklepin:


Kubota Dealer in your area:
Wowco Equipment Company
5430 N. State Highway 146, Baytown,TX 77523
888-659-6941 |281-383-3100


Your Univeral 5444 has a Kubota Block: V1902

Kubota Tractor that it was used in: R400 Loader
   They can only look up the parts using the "what kind of tractor do you have".  They can't or won't look up by block number and they have not Universal cross-references


Freshwater pump has 15 bolt holes (or 16 bolt holes, you need to count them). My Universal 5444 (also a 1982 367) has a 15 bolt hole water pump.

I recently rebuilt the engine and replaced the entire water pump with kubota part.

Cost is about $120 for the entire water pump (dont' forget the gasket).

The pulley is called a Fan Pulley and has a kubota part number: 15471-74250

I don't know what Westerbeke means by A or B, unless they are referring to the 15 vs 16 bolt holes. I don't know if the pulley is different between the 15 hole and the 16 hole.

If you can remove what's left of the pulley, take it to Kubota, tell them it's from a R400 loader and see what they have.

Kubota online part manual
https://apps.kubotausa.com/illustrated-parts/
Enter "R400" for the search term,
Click Open on results and find your part.


Attached is a cross-reference I compiled during the rebuild
Title: Re: Water pump pully.
Post by: S/V Deo Volente on December 08, 2016, 11:02:32 PM
A or B has to do with the belt width. Do you know the belt number?
Here is a link to more than you want to know.  http://www.gizmology.net/pulleysbelts.htm (http://www.gizmology.net/pulleysbelts.htm)
Bob
Title: Re: Water pump pully.
Post by: Hooligan on December 14, 2016, 10:53:40 AM
 Shacklepin,  I also have a 5444 Universal . You say you bought a new Alternator, can I ask you the type and number.

   Ed Hart
Title: Re: Water pump pully.
Post by: Shacklepin on January 07, 2017, 10:20:01 AM
Ed. I am sorry but I can find no identifying label on the alternator. In all honesty I was glad to find one in Cuba. It was supplied by a friend of a friend of a guy that worked at Marina Hemingway so its origin must remain unquestionable. I researched the Internet to confirm the wiring layout and the attached is what I used as it is identical. Maybe you can identify it from the picture.
Title: Re: Water pump pully.
Post by: Hooligan on January 08, 2017, 09:40:45 AM
Shackelpin, Thanks but that is not the alternator on my engine. Mine has  an external regulator.
Title: Re: Water pump pully.
Post by: S/V Deo Volente on January 08, 2017, 03:05:00 PM
I don't know if this helps, but it looks like a Motorola type. There are versions available on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALTERNATOR-UNIVERSAL-MARINE-5411-5416-5421-5424-5432-5444-M12-M15-M18-M20-M30-/131967485174?hash=item1eb9e004f6:g:O9MAAOSw8w1X~TYK&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALTERNATOR-UNIVERSAL-MARINE-5411-5416-5421-5424-5432-5444-M12-M15-M18-M20-M30-/131967485174?hash=item1eb9e004f6:g:O9MAAOSw8w1X~TYK&vxp=mtr)

or
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MERCRUISER-OMC-VOLVO-MARINE-MANDO-ALTERNATOR-20054-60050-12449-AC155603-/110788839342?hash=item19cb8787ae:g:a04AAOSwMmBVvmSW&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-MERCRUISER-OMC-VOLVO-MARINE-MANDO-ALTERNATOR-20054-60050-12449-AC155603-/110788839342?hash=item19cb8787ae:g:a04AAOSwMmBVvmSW&vxp=mtr)

My Westerbeke 50 has a similar Motorola with an external regulator and an Automac manual controller.
Title: Re: Water pump pully.
Post by: Hooligan on January 08, 2017, 04:38:31 PM
  Yes that looks like it would work