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Title: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: Davemurray on June 27, 2013, 04:42:07 PM
If any one has a used or rebuilt raw water pump and or a Paragon transmission I am interested in buying.  If you have suggestions as for reasonably priced alternatives, I'm all ears.  From reading the posts, its seems that the 1:1 Velvet Drive is a popular substitute for the Paragon.  Creative suggestions for the water pump? I'm going to get mine rebuilt but I'd like a back up.   I got a price quote for a new one from a Westerbeke distributor and I think gold is less expensive.
Title: Re: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: Don Woodruff on June 27, 2013, 11:24:49 PM
I have several Sherwood raw water pumps ranging from a basic casting that needs a full overhaul to one ready to go. I am sure I can supply one well below the dealer price. I keep one on board in case of impeller failure and I have collected three others. Contact me via email don@mainmast.com and let me know your interest. I also have a Paragon transmission from an old 4-107 that did not use a Vdrive. I do not know much about it but I can supply detail to someone who knows more than I.
Title: Re: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: INCOMMUNICADO on June 28, 2013, 08:56:02 AM
Dave my first thought is to decide what raw water pump you have,then go on line and start shopping.Westerbeke is always higher.Velvet Drive sounds like a good choice,1to1 without a reduction gear.There are many new and used around.I know the new ones have an aluminum case the older ones are cast iron which I don't is a bad thing.  Good Luck keep us posted. Allen
Title: Re: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: Jim Cozy on June 28, 2013, 10:08:28 AM
I just replaced my Paragon (never liked it) with a Velvet Drive (loved all 3 I've owned). The replacement is Model 71C, direct drive. I documented the replacement and will post the process as soon as I can remember how. If anyone has specific questions, email me at cozzmann@yahoo.com. Jim
Title: Re: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: SVJourney on June 29, 2013, 02:50:34 PM
The raw water pump that is cheapest is the Sherwood G65.  There are rebuild kits available online, part # 12221, but it is cheapest to just remove the 2 bearings and the seal and get new ones matched from a bearing supply house.  Cost me $15 bucks from Florida Bearing in FT Lauderdale.
I got Timken 471466 seal and NTN SC0228LLUC3/L627 bearings


BTW, when reinstalling the raw water pump, be sure to do a lateral alignment as per service bulletin #10.  I found out the hard way how short bearing seal life is if you don't align the pump when you install it.  Pretty easy, just install the pump nuts on finger tight, then spin the engine over a  couple revolutions to align the pump, then carefully tighten the nuts without disturbing the alignment.
Title: Re: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: Davemurray on July 08, 2013, 02:45:26 PM
Thanks for all the help and advice.  Experience is a great teacher and learning from those who have faced these issues successfully with the Pearson is a real asset.  I have a lot more to learn about her to maintain her properly.   If any of you have some pieces of wisdom to share on what you've learned from maintaining your boat, please pass that on.
Title: Re: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: INCOMMUNICADO on July 09, 2013, 06:52:43 AM
Wayne, That is great information parts numbers for bearings and seals for the Sherwood pump.I have been looking for seals and bearings for my spare Jabsco 3270-0001.So far I have checked five of the ten bearing suppliers in town,the search will go on today.When or if I find a source I will post parts numbers and cost.I did find the bearings on line at 85.00 ea. plus tax and shipping.Allen
Title: Re: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: Randy on July 09, 2013, 08:02:18 AM
Wayne, Can you please post Service Bulletin #10 so I can copy and use ?

Cheers
Title: Re: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: SailingSeaDragon on July 09, 2013, 10:47:38 AM
All of the Service Bulletins I have are posted on Sea Dragon's website... # 10 is the first one, oddly

http://www.sailingseadragon.com/Manuals/Westerbeke%20Service%20Bulletins%20W40%20-%20web.pdf

Garner
Title: Re: Looking for used / rebuilt water pump and transmission
Post by: SVJourney on July 09, 2013, 01:17:25 PM
LOL Dave!  I don't really think I can say that I have passed these hurdles successfully.  The reason I found out about the alignment issue comes from having to travel 400+ miles across the Bahamas with a raw water pump pissing salt water all over my engine like a big dog.  It also sprayed on the belt, which took the water all over the alternator and killed it rather spectacularly.  The engine steamed and kept running, but it looked like a Morton salt factory by the time we got back to Florida and found parts.  I could make margaritas off of my exhaust manifold.

Learn from my fail.   ;)

And a spare raw water pump is something I would not leave home without.  Next year I am carrying a spare pump AND parts to rebuild if it fails. Because last year, one spare was not enough.

Hey thanks for posting up the service bulletins Garner.  Nice!