hello, as I sail quite all alone and am enough aged would be good to use an staysail expecially for nights, less danger and good sleep. this change will bring me some advantages. does anyone made this transformation adding a stay with his chaiplate on the deck ? the design of the boat permits this modification ? or is dangerous and needs some adds professional work with his costs ?
all suggestions and info will be appreciated amigos. I have still to start to sail with this boat.
Nello,
Do a search for "cutter" and you will find some pictures of the factory cutter rig.
Dale
Nello,
Conversion of a sloop to a cutter would be expensive... The cutter has taller mast which is set 18 inches aft of the sloop mast plus a deeper fin keel vs. modified full keel of the sloop as well as a different rudder. Specs for all of the versions of the 365/367 can be found at the following:
http://www.sailingseadragon.com/Specs.htm
Garner
An option would be using a solent stay. I rigged one a few years ago using a release lever so it can be moved out of the way. The sails are too close to sail as a cutter but you can set a second smaller sail and furl a Genoa on the headstay. The stay is attached about 12-18 inches below the headstay fitting so you don't need running backstays.
tks at all - It is a bit difficult to find info in the web due my english. -- Deo volente seems to me you had a concrete experience in this modification. please can you explain more simple and pratically where you think needs to put the chain plate on the deck (the distance from base of rollefurl) and how high in the mast have to be fixed the point of connection the new stay? clearly without compromise the structure and make unsafety the boat.. I just would place a small trinchetta sail. do not mind if the project is not ok, if is not professional work and bla,bla,bla. I would only to arise a small salils for night trip and emergency in bad wheater. I sail alone. tks amigos
Unfortunately I don't have any good pictures showing the details.
Here is one that gives an overall view.
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/redzroadster/summer2012crop1_zpsa63b0020.jpg)
The deck fitting is directly behind the anchor bowsprit / platform
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/redzroadster/summer2012crop_zps648d4c4e.jpg)
The mast head had to come off to attach the top fitting since I used bolts and nuts. I had both fittings made. I'll look for information on the release lever, it was an relatively inexpensive option to a Hyfield lever.
Here is a link to a picture of the release lever in use.
http://gemini105.tripod.com/sundog/lg_Aut_0016.jpg (ftp://http://gemini105.tripod.com/sundog/lg_Aut_0016.jpg)
Here is an order form from 1999
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k637/redzroadster/sliphook_zpsee1ba3fc.jpg)
deo tks- is that I need. is a pity you have not others photo more detailled expecially the attack at mast. I see another stay under the boom attached at mast. would be very useful to see "where" at what height from the deck. you did not put a chainplate on thedk but mounted a support ( I thing of strong sea wood ). If you have not others photo and further info would be ok. I have now just what I asked. The transformation is possible, you did it and you sail normanlly. many tks Deo indeed. if you want to post some other info I give you my email : nellodamelio@gmail.com